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2016/11/19 03:56:23 (permalink)
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Any news about new PIC32MZ DA?

Hello everyone
Maybe someone know when microchip give us new PIC32MZ? I heard that A1 revision of DA  has many errors.
 
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    Mysil
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/19 05:00:57 (permalink)
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    Hi,
    Which MZ?
    PIC32MZ__EF__  
    This is the new MZ with a ADC that work.
    It is now on revision A3, Datasheet and Errata documents are on Microchip Website,
    There are still some Errata on the ADC and other peripherals.
     
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       Mysil
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/19 06:47:19 (permalink)
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    for example PIC32MZ1064DAA169
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/19 08:36:40 (permalink)
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    My FAE says the DA chips will be released soon. I did not ask about the Eratta.
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/19 10:00:18 (permalink)
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    I think they won't release it if there are too many bugs. AFAIK, It's an oversized model of MZ with most extra pins without useful connections except SEG.
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/19 10:20:46 (permalink)
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    I assume close to 30 of them are for the LCD display. That would bring the smaller one close to the 144 pin MZ in io or the next one up.
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/21 15:05:17 (permalink)
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    Mysil
    Hi,
    Which MZ?
    PIC32MZ__EF__  
    This is the new MZ with a ADC that work.
    It is now on revision A3, Datasheet and Errata documents are on Microchip Website,
    There are still some Errata on the ADC and other peripherals.
     
    Regards,
       Mysil


    The upcoming PIC32MZ DA series contains a DDR2 memory controller and a 2D 32-bit (RGBA) graphics controller, but remove the FPU according to a leaked datasheet that appeared here earlier this year.
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/22 03:05:07 (permalink)
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/22 07:25:28 (permalink)
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    bruecke
    Will we be able to run embedded linux on this PIC32?!
     



    With external RAM in the order of 16Meg bytes (4Meg minimum) one could run ucLinux.
    512 Meg ram cam run full Linux.
    but it would be slow when compared to most 1Ghz ARM.
    But why bother when platforms like Beaglebone and Rasberry PI are very well established and supported?
     
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/22 08:46:30 (permalink)
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    From my recollection of the DA datasheet which leaked (I wish I had saved it, dammit) and masters slides, the 144pin TQFP/LQFP version comes with 32MB on-package DDR2 RAM, no external DDR2 bus. The larger, BGA only packages support up to 128MB external DDR2.
    It also has full SD-Card support on the SQI bus, so booting Linux from an image on SD is supported.
    I wish they had retained the FPU, as now it looks like we will have decent graphics speed with the on-board 2D accelerated 'GPU', but have lost the processing horsepower to fully take advantage of it. Go figure.
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/23 11:42:31 (permalink)
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    bruecke
    Will we be able to run embedded linux on this PIC32?!
     



    Why?
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/23 12:23:31 (permalink)
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    Sal Ammoniac
    bruecke
    Will we be able to run embedded linux on this PIC32?!
     



    Why?


    Some say Why, Others ask Why not?  I say good luck with that, have fun.
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/24 07:33:16 (permalink)
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    But why bother when platforms like Beaglebone and Rasberry PI are very well established and supported?
    This question bubbles to the surface every week or two online, to the point that the question "Why not Pi?" has grown to be a pet peeve of mine.  Why are we comparing a large, power-hungry PCB containing many chips with a microcontroller chip?
     
    But for the noobs out there asking "Why not Pi?", here are some of the many reasons why an off-the-shelf linux SBC (even a cheap one that is awesome) are often not a fit for a given project:
    -control over device form-factor (maybe I want to build a wristwatch that is smaller than a Pi)
    -poor low-power performance and lack of control over CPU sleep modes
    -too slow boot time for many applications
    -dependence on huge amounts of code outside of your control (possible problems with licensing, reliability, etc,)
    -control over device life cycle (the Raspberry Pi folks don't exactly check in with me before obsoleting a version and releasing a new one)
    -that awesome feeling you get when you build something yourself (I don't get that feeling on a Pi)
     
    Anyways, the list could go on.
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/26 01:57:49 (permalink)
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    On mouser website for example PIC32MZ1025DAH169 is avaiable but are non-stocked.
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    Re: Any news about new PIC32MZ DA? 2016/11/26 09:26:50 (permalink)
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    But why bother when platforms like Beaglebone and Rasberry PI are very well established and supported?
    This question bubbles to the surface every week or two online, to the point that the question "Why not Pi?" has grown to be a pet peeve of mine.  Why are we comparing a large, power-hungry PCB containing many chips with a microcontroller chip?
     
    But for the noobs out there asking "Why not Pi?", here are some of the many reasons why an off-the-shelf linux SBC (even a cheap one that is awesome) are often not a fit for a given project:
    -control over device form-factor (maybe I want to build a wristwatch that is smaller than a Pi)
    -poor low-power performance and lack of control over CPU sleep modes
    -too slow boot time for many applications
    -dependence on huge amounts of code outside of your control (possible problems with licensing, reliability, etc,)
    -control over device life cycle (the Raspberry Pi folks don't exactly check in with me before obsoleting a version and releasing a new one)
    -that awesome feeling you get when you build something yourself (I don't get that feeling on a Pi)
     
    Anyways, the list could go on.




    These are exact reasons why not to run Linux on PIC32. But more importantly, it's poor real-time performance.
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