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MPLAB X with 4K Displays

Is there any way to make the icons larger when using a 4K display?
I found the 'Small Toolbar Icons` option, but where is the 'Huge Toolbar Icons' option?!
Also, the 'X' to close a tab is impossibly small.
Fonts for most windows are fairly easy to change, but you have to look in several different places.
Several windows default to a very small size, and have to be resized to see whats in them.
 

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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2016/11/01 13:36:35 (permalink)
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2016/11/01 14:24:35 (permalink)
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    Windows 10.
     
    Those other post show that this problem is over a year and a half old!  Although, they do talk about font scaling, which mostly seems to be ok.  It's mainly the tiny icons that make it unusable.
     
    There are plenty of google results for this problem in Netbeans, but none of them seem to do anything for MPLABX.
    The most common suggestion seems to be:
    • Open C:\Program Files\NetBeans 8.0\etc\netbeans.conf
    • Change -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true to -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=false
    I tried this with the mplab_ide.conf file, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
     

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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2016/11/02 02:34:21 (permalink)
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    I'm also having the same problem.

    I've tried scaling and playing with screen resolution, this fixes issues with text size but nothing to do with icons, or tree lists, close icons.
    It is really unusable. The work is being done on a new 4k laptop so using another screen is not an option.
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2016/11/02 09:18:21 (permalink)
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    I looked in "D:\microchip\harmony\v1_09\utilities\mpfs_generator\src" and loaded it into Netbeans
    It took me considerable time to change all the defaults so everything was visible on my 4k monitor.
    I conclude from this exercise the problem is in the defaults used in netbeans and the libraries are not 4k aware.
    Many of the values are hard coded.
    I hard coded everything to be larger and it works.
    It is possible to make it dynamic but would take me quite a bit more time as I am not a netbeans aficionado.
    If the X programmers were asked to make everything 4k aware and given the budget it is possible to make X 4k useful. I can only hope some future version of netbeans becomes 4k aware and X is migrated.
    I am starting to see screens larger than 4k, I do hope when netbeans changes it takes into account the possibility of larger screens.
    If the Microchip testers had Windows 10 machines and 4k screens maybe it would happen sooner.
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/01/06 08:44:35 (permalink)
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    Hi,
    i'have the exact same problem! And i think it's a huge problem. There's a rising number of notebooks and monitors with >1080p or 4K screens and MPLAB-X is totally unusable on these machines. Microchip, can you tell us if theres already someone working on this problem?
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/01/06 11:11:13 (permalink)
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    I actually use a ruler on the pin* config tab in MHC it's just too small D: I wonder why PC software is *still* un suitable for hi res/DPI displays

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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/01/06 11:47:23 (permalink)
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    I hear it might be a netbeans issue.
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/01/06 11:52:20 (permalink)
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    After my experiments in http://www.microchip.com/forums/FindPost/957018 above I think given the time the X Men could resolve all these scaling issues whether or not netbeans became 4k aware.
    Quite true it would take some effort but after all "it's just software"
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/01/07 06:53:25 (permalink)
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    ...If the X programmers were asked to make everything 4k aware and given the budget it is possible to make X 4k useful.

    Please, also do not forget to keep the support of low-resolution displays! I had to work with 1200x800 screen and default X settings aren't as good as an old software has.
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/01/09 15:40:07 (permalink)
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    It's crazy how new 8K monitors are coming out and yet still software isn't ready

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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/01/12 02:39:58 (permalink)
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    I have the same problem.  I've given up and now run my 3840*2160 laptop at 1920*1090 with 175% custom scaling:(.  It seem to be a Windows 10 issue.  A colleague has a Mac and it seems to scale properly on a hi res MacBookPro.
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/01/13 13:39:57 (permalink)
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    I wonder why 'issue' and 'windows' always come together?

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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/01/13 16:05:58 (permalink)
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/11/01 10:27:31 (permalink)
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    Windows 10 now supports letting the system (i.e. Windows) take care of the scaling. Right click on the shortcut to MPLAB X IDE edit the properties, go to the Compatibility tab. In the Settings section there is a checkbox for "Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by:" The default selection is Application. Change this to "System". Works like a charm for me. Fonts are normal, icons are normal size. No need to set the font-size to large anymore
    Here is the link to where I found the fix:
    https://blogs.windows.com...ws-10-creators-update/
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/11/24 02:17:01 (permalink)
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    Windows 7 already had an option to disable display scaling on high DPI settings, is this the same thing re-worded, or is that a different option?
     
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/11/24 12:51:12 (permalink)
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    I wasn't aware that Windows 7 had the option as I never used a 4k display with Windows 7. From my initial search on the web it appeared that Windows 10 initially didn't had the option and that Microsoft added the option to Windows 10 in the update mentioned in the link. So whether it is the same or not I can't tell. All I know is that this option in the latest Windows 10 version allowed me to get the GUI to become usable on a 4k display without the need for a magnifying glass :-)
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/11/28 16:05:16 (permalink)
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    I've seen this solution posted in multiple threads, but sadly it falls short.   It only results in upscaled low-DPI text which looks worse than it does at its native DPI.  Totally defeats the purpose of a high-DPI display. 
     
    Xantorio
    Windows 10 now supports letting the system (i.e. Windows) take care of the scaling. Right click on the shortcut to MPLAB X IDE edit the properties, go to the Compatibility tab. In the Settings section there is a checkbox for "Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by:" The default selection is Application. Change this to "System". Works like a charm for me. Fonts are normal, icons are normal size. No need to set the font-size to large anymore
    Here is the link to where I found the fix:
    https://blogs.windows.com...ws-10-creators-update/



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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2017/11/29 02:52:37 (permalink)
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    This works for me on a 3840 x 2160 laptop.  I can now finally use the laptop in native resolution.  I tried lots of things before, but running in a lower resolution was the only solution.
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    Re: MPLAB X with 4K Displays 2018/08/21 15:11:22 (permalink)
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    Well this was helpful. @Xantorio Thank you for sharing this. It does the trick. 
    @ElwoodBlues, I agree with you that this is not perfect in that everything looks upscaled and pixelated; however this is for Microchip to fix. In the mean time, this is the best we have...

    Regards,
    CL
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