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Software for PICSTART 16B1


Dear Sirs,
 
I am a new member in this PIC list. I am interested in MICROCONTROLLER again after few years didn't practice in this field. Recently, my friend gave me PICSTART 16B1 Development Programmer. He bought in 1994/1995.
Unfortunately, the software (in diskettes) to run this tools is corrupt.
As I can not use it anymore. The files are:

 
Disk Contents:


            README.16B             This File.
            MPS16B.EXE                PICSTART 16B1 Executable Version 5.00
            MPS16B.HLP                Online Help File.
                MPSIM.EXE              MPSIM Executable
            MPASM.EXE                 MPASM Executable
            MPSIM.TXT                   MPSIM User's Guide Text
            MPASM.TXT                  MPASM User's Guide Text
            MPS16B.TXT                 PICSTART 16B User's Guide Text


Does anyone have above files or everything than can be used in my tool
programmer? Can you give me by sending email to me ?

Also, I don't know what type of PIC that can be used in this programmer. Do
you know about it? How about 16F84 which I guess many designers use this ?
What is the advantageous of this? How to program? Does it need special
programmer tool?


Sorry for many questions. But I really want to start to develop
micro-controller especially PIC application in my country. Thank you very
much for your support.


Please send me as soon as possible.


Thank you very much.


Best Regards,



Email: bnguyenhuan@gmail.com




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    recursos
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    Re:Software for PICSTART 16B1 2011/06/14 02:02:51 (permalink)
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    Hi bnquynhuan,
    I still have one (in the box).
    I think it is still available (downloadable) from Microchip, see:
    PICSTART Plus
    Notice it will only run with old MPLAB versions (I think also available)
    Rec
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    Re:Software for PICSTART 16B1 2011/06/14 03:26:56 (permalink)
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    Dear Rec.

    Thank a lot for your help, can you send me to my email?

    my email: bnguyenhuan@gmail.com

    Once again thank you
    post edited by bnguyenhuan - 2011/06/14 03:30:40
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    recursos
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    Re:Software for PICSTART 16B1 2011/06/14 05:01:48 (permalink)
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    Hi bnquynhuan,
    Notice you will have to run this in DOS - no MPLAB at the tiem!
    Please read these posts:
    Picstart 16B1
    Pic start 16B1 software
    (If you can get a PICkit2 life would be much easy)
    Rec

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    Re:Software for PICSTART 16B1 2011/06/14 08:24:22 (permalink)
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    Regrettably all the PICs it supports are very obsolete.  I belive it only supports PIC16C5x, PIC16C61, PIC16C71 and PIC16C84. 

    All except the PIC16C84 are CMOS memory parts, which means unless you have some in the /JW windowed side brazed ceramic CERDIP package, that can be erased in a UV EPROM erasor, they can only be used once.  The /JW parts are no longer available and were about £15 (GBP) each ten years ago. If your friend has any /JW parts left you could have, then you could develop with these parts, and Microchip can still supply the plastic package variety - at a high price. It takes about 20 minutes to erase a /JW part so the development cycle is very slow and if you accidentally turn on protection, they become unuseable when you try to erase them. *NOT* *RECOMMENDED* 

     The PIC16C84 was Microchip's first FLASH part. It is also obsolete and very expensive compared to far more powerful modern parts, but at least it can be reprogrammed.  If your friend also gave you some of these you are in luck, they are very similar to the PIC16F84 and you will find many tutorials for that that can be adapted to the older part.  At least you can learn the basics of PIC programming that way.  It is NOT worth trying to buy any unless you can get them cheaper than a packet of crisps.

    It is easier to start PIC development from scratch with the more modern FLASH PIC12Fxxx PIC16Fxxx or PIC18Fxxxx series parts, building your own dumb serial or parallel programmer from discrete components then using that to program a PIC to build a MPLAB compatible USB interfaced programmer/debugger such as a clone of the ICD 2 or PICkit 2 than it is to either develop with a PICSTART 16B1 and the CMOS parts it can handle, or to hack it to support slightly less obsolete parts.

    It is NOT worth building your own programmer if the price of a genuine PICkit 2 in your country is less than the wages from a few days work.  Beware of cheap programmers from EBAY - many do not work properly - if at all and there will be no support when they fail. At least if you build one, you will know how to repair it . . .

    For a home made dumb programmer you need an old PC to control it, with a real printer port or serial port.  USB converters WILL NOT work.  It also should run Windows XP or earlier. Ask here if you want to try this for advice on a good circuit to build and software to use.

    Don't throw the 16B1in the trash - it is a goldmine of useful components.  The power supply and associated circuit are just what is needed for a home made programmer and the ZIF socket can easily be mounted on an adaptor board to connect to a ICD2 or PICkit 2 once you have built one, or used with whatever dumb programmer you build if you don't get as far as building a USB programmer. 

    post edited by Ian.M - 2011/06/14 08:32:24
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    Re:Software for PICSTART 16B1 2011/06/14 09:51:55 (permalink)
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    Hi Rec

    I would like to thank you for your help.

    I hope in the future you help me more.

    Best Regard
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    Re:Software for PICSTART 16B1 2011/06/15 01:17:12 (permalink)
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    Hi bnquynhuan,
    You are welcome.
    Rec
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