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2019/11/12 23:02:24 (permalink)
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Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705

What is the best programmer to use for production programming on this part. The PicKit4 indicates is in Beta.
The PicKit3 is slow.
 

John Zigrang
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    ric
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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/12 23:15:30 (permalink)

    I also post at: PicForum
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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/12 23:41:40 (permalink)
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    The PICkit4 could be in beta for a long time, but will most likely work.
    There is the ICD4 and the PM3
    And as pointed out, 3rd part programmers.
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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/14 12:37:33 (permalink)
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    Even non-beta programmers are slow for GA704/705 - see my thread here https://www.microchip.com/forums/m1017813.aspx about non-beta and fully supported programmers.
    PicKit4 is still beta (it's two years since its introduction to market), in future it may be better, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Jaromir Sukuba, Bratislava, Slovakia
    http://jaromir.xf.cz/  - open source PIC18 debugger.
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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/14 14:54:52 (permalink)
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    Just ordered the PIicKit4.  I'm waiting by the door for UPS to deliver it.

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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/14 15:05:17 (permalink)
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    It looks like the PicKit4 is the way I will go.
    It's seams a lot faster than the PicKit4.
     
    Thanks all for your input.

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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/14 15:06:01 (permalink)
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    jtzeng
    It looks like the PicKit4 is the way I will go.
    It's seams a lot faster than the PicKit4.

    did you mean "PicKit3" in the second line?
     

    I also post at: PicForum
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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/14 15:20:57 (permalink)
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    Yes PicKit3

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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/19 02:27:52 (permalink)
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    I find it to be identical speed wise to the PK3, though I'm using relatively small chips < 128kb.
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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/19 07:49:21 (permalink)
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    I don't have PICkit4, but I did a long investigation of programming speed with PICkit3 and ICD3. 
     
    From what other people posted, it appears that PICkit4 and ICD4 are faster than PICkit3 and ICD3 because they skip unused space when programming. When the chip is full, or nearly full, it is about the same speed.
     
    Snap is said to be faster, but nobody posted any real measurements yet. I don't have that one neither.
     
    At any rate, NSDSP would be faster than any of these. It takes 5.5s to fully program and verify PIC24FJ256GA705.
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    Re: Production In Circuit progamer for PIC24FJ256GA705 2019/11/19 14:26:03 (permalink)
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    I did a test a while back with a PICKit3 & 4 and ICD3 & 4 and a a Real ICE on a pretty full PIC32MZ.
    The PICkit3 was slower by alot.  I would hope they fixed the ICD4
     
    https://www.microchip.com/forums/m1057427.aspx
     
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