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2018/11/01 16:15:06 (permalink)
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[PIC32MX-SD] Is there a "most common" initialization sequence for microSD cards?

I have several 4Gb microsd cards. For my application, compatibility from 8 to 32Gb cards is suitable.
For the first time I do have to interface a microsd card, using a MX470F512L running at 100MHz.
I don't need to have a file system, just need to write at the addresses/blocks of the card to generate a log.
I tried fat32 file system from MLA examples, but did not had sucess with it, the example was to create a txt file inside the card directory, but didnt worked even considering that I changed hardware setup to have compatibility with my board.
 
I noticed that there are different types of microSD cards, in terms of initialization sequence, and they support different commands or command sequence.
 
What can I do as a starting point to initialize my cards, and then be able to write/read on the card?
Is there a default initialization sequence?
 
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    qhb
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    Re: [PIC32MX-SD] Is there a "most common" initialization sequence for microSD cards? 2018/11/01 16:23:10 (permalink)
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    Can you give some specific examples of the different cards you are referring to?
    Is it perhaps the difference between SDHC and SDXC cards?
     

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    Re: [PIC32MX-SD] Is there a "most common" initialization sequence for microSD cards? 2018/11/01 16:35:05 (permalink)
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    qhb
    Can you give some specific examples of the different cards you are referring to?
    Is it perhaps the difference between SDHC and SDXC cards?



    Yes, SDHC, 4~32 Gb. These are the cards I would like to use.
    All them, also from different manucturers, have the same sequence of initialization in terms of SPI commands?
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    Re: [PIC32MX-SD] Is there a "most common" initialization sequence for microSD cards? 2018/11/01 16:35:30 (permalink)
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    The SD memory card protocol and commands are described in the physical layer simplified specification you can download from the SD Association's website.

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    Re: [PIC32MX-SD] Is there a "most common" initialization sequence for microSD cards? 2018/11/02 12:54:41 (permalink)
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    could somebody explain what compose a SDHC command in a simply way? A SDHC command is a single SPI write? or a SDHC command is composed of multiple SPI writes? (do the commands have arguments?)
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    Re: [PIC32MX-SD] Is there a "most common" initialization sequence for microSD cards? 2018/11/02 13:53:24 (permalink)
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    seccoxiru
    could somebody explain what compose a SDHC command in a simply way? A SDHC command is a single SPI write? or a SDHC command is composed of multiple SPI writes? (do the commands have arguments?)

    Have you read the spec?

    Yeah, "//Code and stuff".
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    Re: [PIC32MX-SD] Is there a "most common" initialization sequence for microSD cards? 2018/11/02 14:45:09 (permalink)
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    Commands are a single byte followed by a 32 bit argument field, followed by a checksum.
     
    Responses vary in length depending on the command.
     
     
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    Re: [PIC32MX-SD] Is there a "most common" initialization sequence for microSD cards? 2018/11/02 14:49:48 (permalink)
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    Here is a teaser from the demo app of the most popular FAT file system, FatFS from elmchan which you can download as reference.
     

    /* Send command packet */
     xmit_spi(0x40 | cmd); /* Start + Command index */
     xmit_spi((BYTE)(arg >> 24)); /* Argument[31..24] */
     xmit_spi((BYTE)(arg >> 16)); /* Argument[23..16] */
     xmit_spi((BYTE)(arg >> 8)); /* Argument[15..8] */
     xmit_spi((BYTE)arg); /* Argument[7..0] */
     n = 0x01; /* Dummy CRC + Stop */
     if (cmd == CMD0) n = 0x95; /* Valid CRC for CMD0(0) */
     if (cmd == CMD8) n = 0x87; /* Valid CRC for CMD8(0x1AA) */
     xmit_spi(n);

     /* Receive command response */
     if (cmd == CMD12) rcvr_spi(); /* Skip a stuff byte when stop reading */
     n = 10; /* Wait for a valid response in timeout of 10 attempts */
     do
      res = rcvr_spi();
     while ((res & 0x80) && --n);

     
    Google "Elm-Chan FatFs"
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    Re: [PIC32MX-SD] Is there a "most common" initialization sequence for microSD cards? 2018/11/02 18:57:34 (permalink)
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    As one who just implemented SD Card interface on a project - here is what I would do.
     
    1) Take a look at FatFS - It is Open Source, on the Web and quite easy to understand C code. You can take a look at how it implemented the initialization sequence. Compare this to the SD Card specifications. It will start to make sense.
     
    Or,
    2) I understand your reluctance to use the Fat File System, especially when your initial attempt did not work. I too had this idea as a backup plan if I could not get the Fat File System going. Fortunately I found the some FatFs examples that worked (see below). Just think of the interoperability and ease of use if you can examine data easily on a PC directly without some other translation software because you are storing the data on a standard File System.
     
    With this in mind I found that the example posted here works,
    Microchip uses FatFS as the basis for their SD Card driver- you can find FatFS buried in their code.
    microchipdeveloper.com/harmony:audio-player-lab2
    This example shows you how to setup Harmony and the other drivers properly. 
    Then to get this working you can copy the application code from the example application "sdcard_fat_single_disk" App.c and you will have a working example in a short period of time.
     
    When I had this working it proved that my hardware did indeed work, but this example uses the Harmony Dynamic drivers - this would not work for me in my final application - So I found an example of FatFs using register SPI Calls.
     
    This uses FatFS directly and uses Register based calls to do the SPI (and no interrupts). I was able to quickly understand this implementation and rewire just a few calls to use my Static SPI implementation. 
    tutorial.cytron.io/2017/09/17/fatfs-for-pic32mxmz/
    This tutorial (above) does use a timer for timeouts, but it is written in such a way as to not require the timer, if you never timeout - which was a good assumption for my exact application. Your mileage may vary.
     
    Based on these two examples I was able to get the latest version of FatFs directly from the author, make about 6 changes in his code and I was done.
     
    Hopefully this helps you also.  :-)
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