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So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 21, 2008 9:15:48 AM

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MPLAB 8.15 contains release notes for an IDC 3 debugger.

Anything known about it?

Oops ICD 3 I meant of course.

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 21, 2008 3:12:06 PM

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Hello,

Please watch for the new product announcement which is coming soon.

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MPLAB 8.15 contains release notes for an IDC 3 debugger.

Anything known about it?

Oops ICD 3 I meant of course.

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 21, 2008 4:42:13 PM

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Good news. Hopefully it will be faster for PIC24/dsPIC/PIC32 debugging. ICD 2 is barely usable for them.

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 22, 2008 12:47:55 AM

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I have the feel it will be very fast when looking at 8.15

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 22, 2008 10:57:38 AM

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Please watch for the new product announcement which is coming soon.

Oh no!!! Not another must have programmer. Can I really afford it?????????????

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 22, 2008 2:15:05 PM

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The Digi-Key Team 3 Power Play contest seems to drop several hints about the new device. :)

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 25, 2008 3:40:22 AM

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Refer to here as well:
http://forum.microchip.com/tm.aspx?m=376021

Looks like ICD 2 but much faster (high speed USB + FPGA), variable target power just like PICkit 2, less features than Real-ICE.

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 25, 2008 1:54:55 PM

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I guess it will be announced at ESC Boston this week.

I believe the p/n is DV164035, price $219.

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 25, 2008 2:51:19 PM

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quote:

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I guess it will be announced at ESC Boston this week.

I believe the p/n is DV164035, price $219.

My .02

whoops :)

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=DV164035&Ns=P_SField

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=GIQXYiEeHGB3eNOeKZYfUg%3d%3d

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 25, 2008 6:22:43 PM

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Mouser charges US$219 in US but charges S$370 (about US$250) in Singapore.

http://sg.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=DV164035&Ns=P_SField

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 27, 2008 8:23:07 AM

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Information is now available at www.microchip.com/icd3

Not listed yet at microchip direct

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 27, 2008 6:40:43 PM

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So, ICD2 is going to be out, curious if my current ICD2 is broken, will they replace my broken ICD2 with an ICD3?

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 27, 2008 8:39:14 PM

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So, ICD2 is going to be out, curious if my current ICD2 is broken, will they replace my broken ICD2 with an ICD3?

You wish.

ICD 3 is not a replacement to ICD 2. It is a new upgrade. Just like a PM3 is an upgrade of Promate II.

ICD 2 will be there to stay (at least for a while), it is good enough for PIC12/16/18.

They may replace your faulty ICD 2 with a PICkit 2 in the future.

Just kidding.

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 28, 2008 12:53:32 AM

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ICD 3 is not a replacement to ICD 2. It is a new upgrade.

I noticed ICD3 has "RealICE" drivers located at it's drivers folder at 8.15, I suppose it is a stripped down version of it's big brother RealICE.

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 28, 2008 1:48:25 AM

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I noticed ICD3 has "RealICE" drivers located at it's drivers folder at 8.15, I suppose it is a stripped down version of it's big brother RealICE.

Maybe, but it add's at least one feature to the RealICE: It can supply the target-board with a variable supply-voltage (1.8V - 5.5V, if I remember a table correctly, which was posted in a meanwhile censored thread about ICD3)...

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 28, 2008 3:33:31 AM

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Yeah that's a usefull feature (if vdd of the target doesn't draw to much current).i just readed about it at ICD3 userguide now at the website of mc, ICD3 can power a target with 100mA retrieved from the USB

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 28, 2008 5:21:00 AM

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100mA is the max USB current, so probably a 30~40mA to external board?
PICKit2 can also supply about 30~40mA to external board because itself consume about 50-60mA. This make it cannot afford power hunger chip like the dsPIC30F601xA, which easily takes up to 100mA at start at higher frequency.

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 28, 2008 8:16:00 AM

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The help file included on MPLAB IDE 8.15 says less than 100mA.

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 28, 2008 8:41:38 AM

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RE: So what is MPLAB ICD 3? - Oct. 28, 2008 12:05:26 PM

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Hmm. Farnell don't have in stock at the moment. I wondered what the UK price would be, given the weak pound at the moment. Regards

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