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Hello
who knows the diffrence between an ICD2 and the PICKit 2 ? Is is something like a lowcost ICD2 ?
Gerhard
Pickit 2 started as a low cost programmer, not has become on a debugger. I can't tell you about its features or capabilities but perhaps it has lesser device support than the ICD2 has.
Oh yes this (support and warranty) is one aspect that ICD2 is better than PICkit 2. That is of course because PICKit 2 is much cheaper than ICD2. One thing very good about PICKit 2 is that the developer supports it in this forum very well.
IMHO, as a programmer, PICKit 2 is even better than ICD2 since it can control the Vdd of the target. It also supports EEProm program using the standalone PC application. I might be a bit biased since I never liked ICD2 as a programmer. I hate the ICD2 cable.
As a debugger, PICkit 2 is as capable as ICD2 in terms of hardware. As of now, the full potential of PICkit 2 has not been realized but it is good enough as of MPLAB 7.62.
For the full device support of PICkit 2 with the standalone PC application and within MPLAB 7.62, please refer to the PICkit 2 website: http://www.microchip.com/pickit2
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Like what the rest had mentioned, it's up to your needs. If you need only a programmer, get the PK2. But it's getting into working as a debugger in MPLAB7.62 with supported PICs only. If you are seriously debugging your code, then you might consider the ICD2, with spare cash in hand .
I had the PK2 first & I still prefer it over ICD2. Never actually use the PK2 or ICD2 as a debugger. Personally after using both of them, PK2 still stands out for me .
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making things work isn't enough..... getting it work robustly would be better...
thanks for the answers. Yes, at work I have an ICD2, and I often get angry about it. For home usage I need primarily a programmer. The debugging capability of the ICD2 is not very convincing. So I think, that for my needs the Pickit 2 is sufficient. But I am wondering, that I can't see any posts about Pickit 2 in this forum.
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Besides some hardware modifications on older PK2 (those with black buttom), PK2 generally is "problem-free" as far as I see. That's probably nothing in the forum on PK2.
One more thing to add on PK2, it support serial memory chip programming as well. This is an added feature if you are starting to deal with serial memory & PIC for the 1st time.
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making things work isn't enough..... getting it work robustly would be better...
I have no idea about 64-bit VISTA support for your clone device.
64-bit VISTA is now supported by newer MPLAB ICD 2 debuggers (P/N 10-00397). Please follow instructions on installing the drivers in the MPLAB ICD 2 release notes. These are the RoHS compliant devices.
Older MPLAB ICD 2 debuggers (P/N 10-00319) will NOT support 64-bit VISTA.
The PICkit 2 package is much nicer. Too bad the the ICD 2 doesn't come in that package. It's super compact. It uses a mini B USB connector like a digital camera. It uses a standard .1" pitch pin header instead of that goofy telephone style modular connector. The only negative I've found so far is that it doesn't support newer chips as soon as the ICD 2. In MPLab V8.10, the 24F I'm working with right now isn't supported by PICKit 2, but I havent tried V8.14 yet, hope it's there.
Hi simply, I have been using ICD2 for 3 years, I just discovered the PK2 . It comes with the same pinout that I chose to replace the ugly RJ12 of ICD2. With MPLAB v8.14 it even support the dspic 30F ! so compact, cheep, simple... it is ok for me. You just have to chose exactly where to put the programming connector of the ICSP on your target board to leave access to PK2.
I was happy to find support for the 24F in v8.14 of MPLab. Don't really understand why they nail you guys in Europe on the shipping cost. In the US, Microchip direct charges the equivalent of about 6 Euros for shipping. Even if they warehouse in the US, a light package like that ships international for only a couple dollars via USPS first class air mail.
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