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MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices?

PLAB X IDE v4.05
Family: 8-bit AVR MCUs (XMega/Mega/Tiny)
Device: ?????
 
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/05 09:59:08 (permalink)
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avr is supported by atmel studio
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/05 10:57:09 (permalink)
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Hi,
Also nothing in MPLAB X v4.10.
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/05 12:05:48 (permalink)
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I believe you are seeing an "artifact".  AVR is indeed coming to MPLAB X.  In fact, in our internal builds they are already there.  But we remove them on our release builds because AVR support isn't quite up to the level we want yet.  I think we forgot to remove the AVR family selection from the project wizard.
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/05 14:56:04 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about AVRs making their way into the future. It is the PICs destiny I would worry about. Difficult to see, always in motion the future is ...
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/05 15:03:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby twelve12pm 2018/02/20 07:05:47
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Do these poor AVR users, currently enjoying Visual Studio, understand the horror that MPLABX is about to inflict on them? ...
 

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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/05 15:49:37 (permalink)
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I was hopping they would go the other way PICs under Visual studio..
 
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/06 01:16:41 (permalink)
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got to agree that I'd much rather be working in visual studio than mplabx.
 
Didn't know they were introducing avr to mplabx.
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/06 02:28:46 (permalink)
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Good to hear. Finally AVR on OSX/Linux.
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/06 04:31:35 (permalink)
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You say that now but just wait.
 
Pretty soon you'll be begging for VS and windows again.
 
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/08 23:13:59 (permalink)
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finally a great IDE comming to AVR. Hope to see AVR devices working in mplab soon.
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/10 03:26:51 (permalink)
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finally a great IDE coming to AVR. Hope to see AVR devices working in mplab soon.

 
That is a sarcastic remark right?
Could also be true?
Hope to see PIC devices working in mplab soon.
 
 
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/20 07:18:23 (permalink)
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martinw7750
got to agree that I'd much rather be working in visual studio than mplabx.
 
Didn't know they were introducing avr to mplabx.




Visual Studio is a lightweight and fast IDE, but unfortunately it only works on Windows. The reason for switching AVR to MPLABX is to gain the ability to run cross-platform. Going the other way around would lose cross-platform support for PIC users.
 
If it were my decision, I would build MPLABX on Code::Blocks rather than NetBeans. It has a plugin architecture like the big heavy duty IDEs have but it is written in C++ and therefore runs natively without the overhead of a Java Virtual Machine.
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/20 08:08:10 (permalink)
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The Price to pay for this benefit to got a software easy portable to MAC/Linux is very high.
Everyone got to fight with that IDE. The problems are enormously, just search the forum.
The Hardware consumption is crazy and almost everything works very slow...
What about a virtual machin running on MAC or Linux? wouldn't that be better? Today there is no problem with a virtual machine, so is there a version for MAC/Linux really needed? USB-Ports should work in this virtual machine also.
Yes, a nice programmed IDE for different Operating Systems would be great, but if there is no support there are ways...
It is interesting to see, if MCC and/or Harmony will support Atmels also.
On one hand, well nice to have one IDE, on the other hand, the Hardware/Pins are that different so the question is, who would swap between atmels and PICs? It would be nice to have programmer/debugger support in the IDEs so you got to have just one Pickit, ICD, ICE....
Would be nice to chance from pic to atmel, copy past code, compile and burn it and finished, but that's not possible.
Perhaps in the future There will be ICD4 and MPLAB Xp for AVRPICs with a smooth running IDE with perfect integreated MCC-Harmony Plugin for fast configuring the needs per mouseclick and flowcode programming style where you can chouse nearly every avaible additional hardware like Displays, Encoder, Multiplexers, etc. and other peripherals....
For now, everything is a mess. ICD4, MPLAB X, MCC, Harmony...
But for getting better it got to be first worse.
Hopefully not everybody is switching IDE/µC only because of hard times....
It's quite a long way...
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/20 08:58:27 (permalink)
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So windows users suffer for the minority number of Linux users.

Your AVR people will not be happy.
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/20 09:19:11 (permalink)
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How hard would it be to port MPLAB 8 to Linux and Mac? I bet the expense of maintaining/supporting MPLAB X, including all the user support issues is far greater.
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Re: MPLAB X IDE 4.05, no AVR devices? 2018/02/20 09:44:16 (permalink)
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"expense of maintaining/supporting MPLAB X"
what expense/maintenance/support? :)

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